tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post3457345582105079784..comments2015-03-22T17:07:59.441-07:00Comments on fem.men.ist: Bob Marley's "Kinky Reggae": A Coded Song Preaching Tolerance For Homosexuality And Jamaican Sexual Taboos?richardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10317048685329784696noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-9614521656860340392013-05-15T07:31:09.397-07:002013-05-15T07:31:09.397-07:00Great debate and dissection of the tune but your v...Great debate and dissection of the tune but your view seems more like a reach than a thing that Marley would imply considering his body of work. Kinky could mean risque in general for Bob on the song. Drug experimentation and sex with Ms. Brown can encompass "kinky" during the 70's. No? I salute you for this article regardless.Shirma's Songhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12399430819133738516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-25464011355881491442013-04-13T18:18:25.390-07:002013-04-13T18:18:25.390-07:00Marley words give each person a different meaning ...Marley words give each person a different meaning !<br />That's also why he's consider a prophet !<br />He tell us that our felling are the eyes to see the world !<br />the real meaning of this songs is not really the words writed ! But what the word can get out of you<br /><br />Check the words of His Majesty if u want to understand better the songs of the king of reggae !<br /><br />I say :<br /><br />kinky reggae drive myself away <br />so I can get out of this smokeyplaces<br />InI will not fall in temptations<br />lot of work to do to reach the final destinations<br />not wasting time on sexual experiment<br />or even to look for new drugs entertainment<br />everything is written nothing new under the sun<br />tollerance is important to unite all human<br /><br />sorry for my english <br /><br />respect for human kind <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-40822613134614001172013-02-26T14:03:27.720-08:002013-02-26T14:03:27.720-08:00kinky activity *offered* in Picadilly Circus, rath...kinky activity *offered* in Picadilly Circus, rather.richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10317048685329784696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-51112491567730495562013-02-26T11:21:04.177-08:002013-02-26T11:21:04.177-08:00thank you for your interpretation Rasta-Faria. I c...thank you for your interpretation <b>Rasta-Faria</b>. I can definitely see the opium/hash reference since Picadilly Circus was a drug center, as well as a notorious center for picking up "rent boys". <br /><br />I only ask what is so kinky about doing drugs? the name of the song is "Kinky Reggae", Bob is singing about "kinky" activities. Both which allude to using sweet edibles as a compliment to oral sex. I understand that the man-to-man oral sex situation is harder for most Rasta to accept, and many will go to great lengths to have it mean something else, but... imma need you to enlighten us as to what kinky activities Bob is talking about with his friend in Picadilly Circus before you simply discount the whole notion as a drug sinting. right now what yer pointing out is making me think the reference could also be about a combination of drugs and sex actually... <br /><br />so yes, what exactly is the kinky activity happening in Picadilly Circus? making it "kinky as kinky can be?"richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10317048685329784696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-23854651708228109802013-02-26T11:03:05.305-08:002013-02-26T11:03:05.305-08:00just a tid bit lol since clearly i dont think this...just a tid bit lol since clearly i dont think this person who originaly posted this knows wtf there saying lol candy tar =Opium/heroin Chocolate bar is simply a hash bar/hash brownie (opium on his hash bar) picadilly was a big reason for Roberts Drug experimenting this is real simple stuff to research most of it has been actualy proven Piccadilly was a Huge drug spot in london in the 70s the song is mainly Being tempted bye stuff he knows is not ment for him which u did nail on the head with the mrs brown section and Booga wooga is a un offensive word for vagina ... and also sneakers lol she had brown suger all over her booga wooga ( her color is brown as surgar i.e her vagina is also lol ) simple stuff <br /><br /><br />this song didnt imply nothing with homo sexuality so u ppl need to leave that part alone this was more on drugs and being a woman lover which he clearly was 14+ kids (mostly his and adopoted) Cough* y most of them damian etc was born in UK!!!Rasta-Fariahttp://www.facebook.com/ras.tonyfarianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-50300964543377737422012-11-22T21:40:21.962-08:002012-11-22T21:40:21.962-08:00Thanks for your input, Anonymous. As a thinking pe...Thanks for your input, Anonymous. As a thinking person, could you share your interpretation of the true meaning of Bob's song "Kinky Reggae", and what exactly made it so kinky? richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10317048685329784696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-37064563299666867102012-11-22T20:53:22.693-08:002012-11-22T20:53:22.693-08:00No, this is incorrect because the first thing you ...No, this is incorrect because the first thing you should realize is that Bob took The Rastafarian Movement seriously and especially back then,in rasta culture, homosexuality was not tolerated and neither was going down on a woman . Think people, think.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-26374205753634919112012-11-03T14:52:42.375-07:002012-11-03T14:52:42.375-07:00thank you Aisha! glad it resonated witcha. i haven...thank you <b>Aisha</b>! glad it resonated witcha. i haven't peeped this thread in a minute either, wow. thanks again!richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10317048685329784696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-37574937440120843112012-11-03T08:53:00.201-07:002012-11-03T08:53:00.201-07:00i loved the break down of this, i never really tho...i loved the break down of this, i never really thought about it, and just loved the hell outta the song especially the remix on Chant down babylon. Thanks for this!!! Aisha @The Bewitching Bibliophilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13747046019797410273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-38976984518111663052010-11-04T18:03:10.598-07:002010-11-04T18:03:10.598-07:00@B: Well... i did find your comment to be complex,...@B: Well... i did find your comment to be complex, if not a bit incomprehensible... but i could tell you believed in it strongly...!<br /><br />anyway, haffi go look mi woman an sprinkle sugar over her booga wooga. bless uprichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10317048685329784696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-55492052047858952792010-09-10T21:02:18.740-07:002010-09-10T21:02:18.740-07:00how a song about the ongoing moment of "ridin...how a song about the ongoing moment of "ridin on" to the kinky part of town but cant stay long .... its the rejection of the evils of modern society and the revolution and "kink" that would follow, but it cant stay long cause we got to ride on from the violence and death that this sort of revolution would cause. <br /><br />as for preaching "preachin...(im blocking the BS out) blah blah blah boos)" i guess if thats what it means to you, you cant see how it has relevance to all tolerance, but its not specifically pointing out homo and taboo.<br /><br />let me quote jah here. <br /><br />"Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior<br />is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned...until there are no longer<br />first class and second class citizens of any nation...until the color of a man’s skin<br />is of no more significance than the color of his eyes...Until that day, the dream of<br />lasting peace and world citizenship will remain but a fleeting illusion to be<br />pursued, but never attained.”<br /><br /><br />add marleys "i say war" then hopefully you can meet me halfway and understand what im getting at, which is we got to get past war but well have to endure it<br /><br />may be a complex description, but really needed to hopefully enlighten those that use little phrases to identify their struggle with a song of the upmost grace and world perspective. instead, you just bring to light the parts of the message that the majority of people find distasteful and they immediately ignore it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09891049524009541872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-91039650322757169952009-02-04T03:12:00.000-08:002009-02-04T03:12:00.000-08:00Champyon blogger...typos at 3am are to be expected...Champyon blogger...typos at 3am are to be expected...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16536917711646386435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-38483390772270504662009-02-04T03:09:00.000-08:002009-02-04T03:09:00.000-08:00Chamyon blogger! So many points to address, issue...Chamyon blogger! So many points to address, issues and ideas I wanted to share, but they were lost once I got into the patois and your supreme descriptions. true dat! anyway, you seem clear-minded and articulate...infact, many of your rebuttals i shared.<BR/><BR/>i will return to say something meaningful...only if it hasnt been said.<BR/><BR/>RESPECT!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16536917711646386435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-54842806647038221382008-10-14T12:25:00.000-07:002008-10-14T12:25:00.000-07:00i would love to know what your roommate would thin...i would love to know what your roommate would think of this!<BR/><BR/>the "hit and run" thing is a big question mark. Bob said "i tink i mite join the fun BUT i had to hit and run" as opposed to "i tink i mite join the fun SO i had to hit and run" so i tend to think that he considered the propositions calmly, but had to keep movin on, or "riding on". Perhaps Bob wanted to leave this part shrouded in double entendre, challenging us to consider that it doesn't matter whether he had a quickie or not. Fellow Jamaicans have said they can read that "hit and run" line either way, that it could be about a quick sexual tryst, or about just keepin it movin.<BR/><BR/>and i agree, world travelling artists do tend to be open in many ways :)richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10317048685329784696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-66385941043323914942008-10-13T10:44:00.000-07:002008-10-13T10:44:00.000-07:00interestin' indeed. I love to show this to my homo...interestin' indeed. I love to show this to my homophobic house mate who has a shrine to Bob in our house..this would make her pissed I'm sure...I milling over the line "I had to hit and run"....in america hit and run means: I did have sexual relations with that woman or man but I left when I was done. Understanding what hit and run means in jamacia would tell us a lot about this song as well as Bobs sexual activity...artist tend to be open in all areas of life....I'm just sayin'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-25916803989772207752008-08-07T09:44:00.000-07:002008-08-07T09:44:00.000-07:00yu sure iz me you leave it fa? nah see nuttinyu sure iz me you leave it fa? nah see nuttinrichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10317048685329784696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-76049269086126845622008-08-06T14:32:00.000-07:002008-08-06T14:32:00.000-07:00mi did a leave a next myspace message fi de I. Ble...mi did a leave a next myspace message fi de I. Bless up mi Bredda,<BR/>Bruce "De Clay Mi Molding" GoldingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-73866963714081540192008-08-03T22:20:00.000-07:002008-08-03T22:20:00.000-07:00Mas BruceyI and I will check I myspace and respond...Mas Brucey<BR/><BR/>I and I will check I myspace and respond to de I pon di morrows.<BR/><BR/>bless,<BR/>Mas Richardrichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10317048685329784696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-79619132606581847452008-08-03T20:28:00.000-07:002008-08-03T20:28:00.000-07:00Hail Mas Richard,I Man did leave the I a message v...Hail Mas Richard,<BR/>I Man did leave the I a message via myspace, but mi no see no reply as of yet. If de I has changed the I mind about giving I advice with the blog let I know and I will press along.<BR/>Big Daddy Bruce " De Girls dem long to be Kissing and Holding" GoldingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-66941956106076026332008-08-01T17:48:00.000-07:002008-08-01T17:48:00.000-07:00Cho man now mi haffi sign up fi di myspace? lawd j...Cho man now mi haffi sign up fi di myspace? lawd jesus! ok but yuh nuh know how it is when yuh have whole heapa pickney dem fi watch out fa. Mi will getti in a minute seen? mi will name it inna mi blog name but mi haffi come up wit name firss. Lawd Jezam. ok soon come.if yuh ave suggestion fi di name let I know. Mi raas,<BR/>Bruce"de girls dem booga wooga"GoldingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-85809054954419885132008-08-01T15:41:00.000-07:002008-08-01T15:41:00.000-07:00huh! well, i am glad that you are taking me up on ...huh! well, i am glad that you are taking me up on this! if only out of love for your daughter. <BR/><BR/>a nuh likkle ting dis tho you know!! although feminism is not a monolithic entity, bell hooks has a great definition: <B>"feminism is a movement to end sexism, sexist exploitation and oppression."</B> with that comes the understanding that we live in male dominated world, and that all men, regardless of race, religion, class, sexuality, etc, experience some permutation of male privilege. A man working to aid the feminist cause has to look very deeply at themselves and how they contribute to this hierarchy. <BR/><BR/>Also, we must understand that we cannot truly understand the experience of being a woman living under patriarchy. Just walking the streets, day or night, being grabbed by the arm by men who feel entitled to just touch them... is a radically different experience from ours. Major religions tell girls that the supreme being is male oriented. Women still get paid less than men. There are many levels. And we can help by listening, and acting on behalf of our sisters. <BR/><BR/>On the Rasta tip, a great dvd i saw is called <A HREF="http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/08/29/232250.php" REL="nofollow">Roots Daughters: The Women Of Rastafari</A>, which features the voices of Rasta women, and the matriarchal roots of Rasta (such as the Nyabinghi, which were a group of Amazonian-esque female warriors that were appointed to protect Ethiopia)... this is something you could watch with your daughter. It is challenging for some Rastamen for sure, i'll tell you!<BR/><BR/>other than that, there are many resources on my page that you should look thru, <A HREF="http://www.dadsanddaughters.org/home/index.html" REL="nofollow">Dads & Daughters</A>, <A HREF="http://www.menagainstsexualviolence.org" REL="nofollow">Men Against Sexual Violence</A>, <A HREF="http://newblackman.blogspot.com/2007/02/black-male-feminist.html" REL="nofollow">NewBlackMan</A>... and so much more! a popular "Feminism 101" post on this blog is <A HREF="http://fem-men-ist.blogspot.com/2008/04/male-privilege-checklist.html" REL="nofollow">The Male Privilege Checklist</A>, a subject discussed much more in depth on <A HREF="http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/2007/05/14/things-you-need-to-understand-6-male-privilege" REL="nofollow">The Angry Black Woman</A>, peep my post on <A HREF="http://fem-men-ist.blogspot.com/2008/06/understanding-boys-understanding.html" REL="nofollow">Understanding Boys, Understanding Masculinity"</A>..... and MOST DEFINITELY peep the <A HREF="http://www.bhurt.com/" REL="nofollow">Byron Hurt</A> videos on black masculinity and anti-sexism featured on the top right part of my blog. this brotha is not rampin! <BR/> <BR/>so yes, a nuh joke bizniz dis. liberation vibes. true nobody is free til all of us are free. it is hard for me to relate to men that do not understand this about sistas, just as it is hard for me to relate to white folks who aren't looking at their racism. <BR/><BR/>one thing that us men tend to do with each other is to circumvent actual reasoning, and to go straight into competition. so i want to actually retract my big big dare to make a feminist page unless you really want to dive into this. really. i would encourage you to, but don't want to dare you to. this isn't something to do because you were dared. <BR/><BR/>are you on myspace? you can hit my page thru my "about me" link and we can connect there. and uh... feel free to tell me whether we actually know each other if you really want to build!<BR/><BR/>last of all, a note around raising daughters. it is said that girls get told more about how "pretty" they are, and that boys are told how "strong" they are. an emphasis on valuing external qualities in placed on girls. i would encourage you to tell your daughter that she is strong, beautiful and smart. and your son too.<BR/><BR/>exponential blessings,<BR/>richardrichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10317048685329784696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-89362549371111571422008-08-01T14:26:00.000-07:002008-08-01T14:26:00.000-07:00Mas Richard,Maybe I can get Jah Key to post on the...Mas Richard,<BR/>Maybe I can get Jah Key to post on the blog too?<BR/>Bruce "De girl dem kissing and holding" GoldingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-69018897144091638092008-08-01T13:59:00.000-07:002008-08-01T13:59:00.000-07:00P.S.Hail Richard. I meant to say I bet you have ne...P.S.Hail Richard. I meant to say I bet you have never heard a Rastafari Wombman complain about her role in life. Its hard to spell check in a little box when you get to typing out your thoughts in it. Seen, Dread?<BR/>Bless Up, BruceHaile Selassie I Archiveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066057909731583789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-89033347532229785982008-08-01T13:55:00.000-07:002008-08-01T13:55:00.000-07:00Maaas Richard,Was I joking? Im not sure if I was o...Maaas Richard,<BR/>Was I joking? Im not sure if I was or not. At any rate I will still keep your secret safe. Ok I accept your challenge. I will start a feminist mens blog. But can I get your help with it? I will only need a few pointers and some advice if thats ok with you. Also can I count on you as a constant viewer and to post on my blog as well? Make me a link on your link page? I will one up the challenge by not only making it a feminist mens blog but I will make it a Rastafari Mens Feminist blog. How bout dat fi a challenge? I think that might be a direction. I think Rastafari men seem to get a bad reputation when it comes to female views and relations. I think the male-female functions of Rastafari are very uplifting to women and I dont know any Rastafari Woman that wouldnt agree with me. Im sure that you can never recall hearing a Rastafari Wombman never complain about her role in life. I think perhaps I can deal with other womens issues that are not Rastafari related as well and how some relate to Rastafari world view. I think it might be a good exercise for not only me but others as well. I accept your dare. :) I never thought of doing it and was joking about it before but I think youre right on alot of things, not all, but alot(my opinion). But I think you may have something here. Yes I do have a daughter and a son and one on the way yet to be determined. So, I think maybe they could learn from this as well when they get older. We are a strong Rastafari family and always fight for the freedom of all man and woman kind dealing with righteousness. Everyone is equal in the I's of the I-rator and that means women too. So your dare makes sense. And since your stakes are so high I feel I must accept. Is there an email address or contact address on your site where I can write you directly to get some advice and direction? I think the Nanny idea is a good place to start. I used to live very close to Pumpkin hill. I could see it in the distance from the top of the mountain nearly level with the hill I was on. So Sound the Abeng! Nanny Go Deh!<BR/>P.M. Bruce Golding The FeministAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8756555647206668344.post-42756856066933154702008-08-01T10:18:00.000-07:002008-08-01T10:18:00.000-07:00sigh. as a lot of my female friends would say with...sigh. as a lot of my female friends would say with a wearied exhale, "men."<BR/><BR/>maybe you are just joking, but this is all too real of my experience, men who are very much consumed by their male conditioning who believe that this must be some sort of act on my part, because they can't imagine any other motivation than getting ass. my motivation is healing, justice, mutual respect and love.<BR/><BR/>i don't have any children yet, but when i have a daughter, i don't want her to absorb the idea that she is only valid company to a man (or valid period) if she puts out. plus tons of other objectifying patriarchal messages. do you have a daughter?<BR/><BR/>and PLEASE start a site for feminist men!! woy! i umpteen triple gazillion dare you!! i'll even give you a subject to start with, Jamaica's only female National Hero, Nanny of the Maroons. What could we learn from her today?richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10317048685329784696noreply@blogger.com